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Tapping into Community Power In Business
Are you and your spouse feeling isolated in your entrepreneurial journey? In this week's episode, Bekah & Kevin explore the crucial role of community in fueling success for entrepreneurial couples.
Drawing from their experiences, they discuss:
* The concept of social capital and its impact on business growth strategies for active community engagement
* The importance of seeking diverse perspectives
* Building a support system beyond your spouse
* The value of stepping out of your comfort zone
Kevin and Bekah offer practical advice on creating and nurturing a supportive network that can propel both your business and your relationship forward. They share personal anecdotes about the power of mentorship, mastermind groups, and intentional relationship-building.
Whether you're just starting out or looking to expand your existing network, this episode provides actionable steps to build a community that supports your entrepreneurial dreams and strengthens your partnership. Join us for a conversation that will inspire you to cultivate meaningful connections and harness the power of community in your journey.
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Hey there, freedom Fighters. Ever feel like you're on an island, trying to build your business and your marriage at the same time?
Speaker 2:Well, we've got news for you. It doesn't have to be that way. Today, we're diving into the incredible power of community in fueling your journey as entrepreneurial couples.
Speaker 1:Speaking of maintaining our entrepreneurial spirit, I want to take a moment to share something that's been instrumental in my own journey towards uncommon freedom. My book, the Seven Disciplines of Uncommon Freedom, dives deep into how we can break free from the currents that often hold us back in life and business.
Speaker 2:Oh, I love the analogy that you use in the book about always rowing upstream. Can you share a little bit about that with our listeners?
Speaker 1:Absolutely. It's actually one of my favorite things to talk about. I probably think about the concept every single day. I discuss it with our kids every single day, have conversations with people that we work with and coach every single day and use this upstream analogy. And the really cool thing is a lot of the people that I interact with have started to use this concept as they're talking with me, and so I know it's really catching some steam.
Speaker 1:You know, in life, and especially in entrepreneurship, we're often surrounded by what I call lazy rivers. We're frequently in them and it's so easy to just float along, letting circumstances dictate where we end up. Right, when you're in a lazy river, you just go. Actually, you know, even if it's not a lazy river swimming pool style, it might be the place where you go rafting. You know in a river, you know that's an outdoor type of river, but you don't get to pick where you end up. Ultimately, the current is going to carry you and the direction that the river runs is going to dictate where you go. But the reality is true freedom the uncommon kind that we talk about requires us to always row upstream.
Speaker 2:You know, I don't know who actually came up with the saying, but it was that our gravitational pull is to mediocrity, not to excellence, and I feel like nothing could be more true than in our current society, as we kind of sense that happening in our world right now and so we're noticing it and I think that's really powerful. So that resonates with our topic today about self-care for entrepreneurs. It's not always the easy path, is it?
Speaker 1:No, the reality is the good path is always going to be the hard path. You know, our good friend, john Maxwell, who I just spent over a week with in Greece pretty amazing talks about the fact that it's uphill. You know you're going the right direction when you're going uphill. You know you're going the right direction when you're rowing upstream. And what I like about the upstream analogy is you know it takes no effort to go downstream. You know when you're in that lazy river, to go with the current it takes no effort. And there's two ways is you can either just float with it, and you know that's kind of a mediocre type approach.
Speaker 1:And then going with the flow yeah, and or you can actually paddle downstream right and, using this analogy, there would be. Those are people who are like acting foolishly. You know they're, they're going into accelerating their demise right.
Speaker 1:Right, they're drug addicts or alcoholics. They're, you know, spouse abusers. Or maybe they're just foolish with their health, they're foolish with their finances. But but the flip side is, going upstream takes intentional effort and there's going to be seasons where you can go upstream faster. You're going to be paddling more feverishly and there's going to be seasons where you're just paddling consistently. But either way, you know you're going the right direction when you're tired, when it's hard, because that indicates that you're going upstream but I also think there's a sense of accomplishment.
Speaker 2:So you know it's like it's, it is difficult, it is going to be, it's going to take discipline and kind of sounds like it's a little bit more negative. But I think the truth is you have a lot of purpose and accomplishment when you can see the progress you're making, where, when you go downstream, I mean, it takes little to no effort. Yeah, I mean.
Speaker 1:The reality is it doesn't take effort. You can, you know you can steer from one side to the other. It's not easy, but it is worth it. So in the book, I talk about how rowing upstream means making conscious decisions in every area of our lives health, finances, relationships and spirituality, among others and it's about choosing the harder but ultimately more rewarding path. Right, we love the saying. It's either the pain of discipline or the pain of regret, and going upstream is choosing the pain of discipline versus the pain of regret.
Speaker 2:And again, I think another thing that John Maxwell says is he'll talk about. You know, we have uphill dreams and downhill habits.
Speaker 2:Or the way we've described it to our kids is you know, the life you live with us in our home nowadays is an A-plus type of life. But you can't make C-minus decisions and lead to an A-plus life. And it's not that our life is perfect by any stretch of the imagination, so maybe a plus is not the best example. But basically, you know, we've had to make pivots and decisions along the way to move from C minus to a B to a B plus to an A, to get the lifestyle that we have today, which isn't just what the things that we own, it's or the money that we make. It's really the quality of our relationships, it's the time we get together, it's the intentionality of which we lead our lives. So a lot of that is just built into seasons of multiple layering of healthy decisions over time.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and choose whatever description you want, you know the promised land is upstream, the American dream is upstream. Every positive thing that we actually strive for is upstream. Now, most people aren't willing to do the work, but I, even I love the promised land analogy because when you think of the story of the Exodus right, the promised land took effort to get to right. God told them you're going to go to the promised land. He did tons of miracles, but it was still actually hard work. They had to walk through the desert, they had to cross the Red Sea and, yes, god did a miracle for them to walk through. But just still imagine it's not like it was easy for them to take everything that they owned and their entire families and walk through the Red Sea.
Speaker 1:So the reality is to get to the promised land, whether it's from a spiritual standpoint or from a material, physical, earthly standpoint. Either way, it's upstream and you have to make that decision. Am I going to walk, put in the discipline of rowing upstream consistently, or am I just going to go with the flow, because you can remain in Egypt and be a slave and maybe even enjoy the fruits of slavery? Right, they talked about the cantaloupe and the melons and the meat or whatever, so you can remain there's. There are some benefits to staying in Egypt and going downstream, but in the grand scheme of things, at the end of your life you're definitely going to say, man, I wish I had gone upstream.
Speaker 2:And anyone who knows the Old Testament knows that the Israelites took the very, very long road to get where they needed to go.
Speaker 1:Like many of us, yes, absolutely.
Speaker 2:And one other quote, since we're on that we're on kind of a quote binge here. Somebody else would? I think it's a Jim Rohn quote. He says don't wish it was easier, wish you were better. And it's easy to say and hard to do, but I think it's important because the truth is we never really improve ourselves in a downstream flow. You know, we don't actually grow as people to become better. We don't improve relationships, all the things.
Speaker 1:So yeah, you don't Work your muscles when you're going downstream right. The strength comes from going upstream.
Speaker 2:Absolutely, and that ties right into setting clear goals and developing consistent routines, which we discussed earlier.
Speaker 1:Yep, and the book goes into detail about what I call the trinity of uncommon freedom, which includes always rowing upstream, getting to one and upgrading your circle Three things. You can even think about them as three habits that are essential to find uncommon freedom, and these principles or habits can really transform how entrepreneurs, and really anyone who wants to get more out of life and be more productive, reach their potential, maximize their impact, how they approach their personal and professional lives.
Speaker 2:Well, I can attest to that. And for our listeners who want to dive deeper into these concepts, where can they find your book?
Speaker 1:Well, the seven disciplines of uncommon freedom is available on Amazon and audible. Uh, by the way, if you happen to see a workbook, those are, there's a. Uh. Last time I looked there was three workbooks that are just people trying to piggyback off of my hard work, so those are not official workbooks, so ignore those. But you can get the book on Amazon or Audible to purchase. Just click the link in today's episode and it's a mere $17.99 for the paperback, and obviously Audible. You can either pay or, if you have a monthly membership, it's just a credit. So great value there.
Speaker 2:I encourage you to get both, because it's great read and also it's a great listen because your sexy radio voice is the one who reads the book. So the voice I get to listen to every day the radio voice and the radio face. Not at all. Not at all, but that's fantastic, kev, so I highly recommend it to all of our freedom fighters out there. Now let's get back to our discussion on cultivating self-care.
Speaker 1:All right. So building a supportive network is absolutely crucial for the success of couple entrepreneurship. Here's how to harness the power of community to propel both your business and your relationships forward.
Speaker 2:So number one is to embrace the concept of social capital. So our action step for you is to actually identify three key relationships in your network that you will nurture this week.
Speaker 1:So social capital, think of this. This is we've heard this, you know, said many times but your network is your net worth and it's not about getting things or taking advantage of people, it's not about manipulating, but it's realizing that truly and you and I have been having this conversation I mean just yesterday we were talking about how my relationship with John Maxwell and that organization is helping another cause, another nonprofit that we're incredibly passionate about further their mission and over and over and over, we've either been able to connect people that we know to important people that they need to get whatever they need to get done, or other people have connected us to the people and resources that we need. So just being. That's why we talk about Upgrade your Circle. It's why we talk about upgrade your circle, it's why we talk about running with your, running with Alliance. But social capital, that network being your net worth, is something that I think most people they underestimate the power of.
Speaker 2:And our world actually gets smaller the older we get and just the more connections we do with people. And when you start to have like-minded values, then you start to quickly meet people that you want to do more life with.
Speaker 2:And again we're like the average of the five people we spend the most time with.
Speaker 2:So most of us that's a spouse, family members, co-workers perhaps, but as you get outside of that concentric circle, it's truly the people that are going to lift you up in both your relationships and your work field and they're going to help you in your business partnerships and all those things.
Speaker 2:And so it's a lot of connecting with people to figure out who are the right people.
Speaker 2:How can you serve others through networking connections and how can you find the right people to do business and life with? Because we would much rather take a referral from someone in a business that we're looking to utilize for ourselves, because it's someone that we know and trust who is recommending someone they know and trust, and it's actually how referrals work in our business a lot, actually, we get a lot of referrals from our current clients who are happy with their progress and they know their friends and family will be well taken care of with us. But this is really important for us and it's something important to teach your kids too, because you know the associations that people they spend time with as teenagers. You know they're kind of figuring that out and many times they're still learning the right people to spend time with. But if you walk them through this in those teenage years and teach them to look for people they want to do life with long-term, there can be a lot of learning lessons along the way.
Speaker 1:Yeah. So your action step for embracing the concept of social capital is to identify three key relationships in your network that you can nurture this week, and ways to nurture that is pick up the phone, send a text. You and I love voice messages. It's a great way to just send a. You know it's like sending a text message but a little more just connection to it. And you know, just tell people hey, I'm thinking of you. If you're a praying type, I was praying for you. How can I pray for you?
Speaker 1:But just build that relationship, connect with people and then remember that high trust communities are more likely to support couple run businesses. So, once again, you and I, when we have trust and we call it a relationship equity, we're quick to do business with those people Like we would rather do people. I mean, sometimes things get sticky, but we would rather use vendors and service providers that share our values, that we know are investing in the kingdom, they're not using it just for their own personal greed and self-service and we just trust them. So that's a great way to do business.
Speaker 2:Okay. Number two is to engage actively with your community. So this is really about finding things local to you, like businesses, events or workshops that you can attend together in the next month, finding a way to get yourselves in the room to make those connections with those people. I actually am starting a Christian women's networking group in August because I wanted to create a space like that where I could bring in women who love our country, that love Jesus. They're interested in you know they love their families and they also want to grow their businesses and I'm looking for a handful of those ladies to get started with. But sometimes you can find it and sometimes you also need to create it in your own community.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and what you're creating? You're intentionally getting outside of our business sphere. So obviously we're huge fans of direct sales or network marketing, those types of home-based businesses. They're phenomenal ways for people to make extra money or even create a whole new legitimate full-time income that could far surpass anything they could do working at J-O-B. But a lot of times the tendency is to hang out just with those types of people in your specific business, and there's a lot that can be gained from it. You know the specifics, intricacies of how your business works. You're going to need to learn from other people in your business. The flip side is there's some blind sides and sometimes we can learn things from people who are outside, in either different companies in direct sales or that are in different businesses, whether it's a brick and mortar or some other type of service provider. But getting that variety that you know is really important. So I know what you're creating is intentionally a collection of people outside of what we do.
Speaker 2:Which is, you know, not easy, because I actually love the people I work with a lot which is a privilege.
Speaker 2:And another thing about network marketing that can be incredible is you. In some ways, you get to choose your coworkers, and so I love the people that we get to work with and it's really important to me to spend time with them. But I'm also looking to expand my reach and also my knowledge base and just to put myself in different spaces. So I feel like that's going to be important and you know, maybe you want to go to a workshop to learn a new skill set, or maybe one of you is really interested and good at something, but the other person in the partnership is not, and so they come along just to learn that avenue, that aspect of business, and it allows you to have like-minded discussion about things that you might want to work on or implement in your family or your business.
Speaker 1:All right. So tip is that community engagement leads to increased business success and a stronger sense of belonging.
Speaker 2:Yeah, totally agree with that one. Okay, number three seek out diverse perspectives and collaborations. This means you're looking for people with similar values. Seek out diverse perspectives and collaborations.
Speaker 1:This means you're looking for people with similar values but maybe diverse backgrounds. Yeah, and so this. Unfortunately, a little over a week ago, we had an example of what goes wrong when you pursue, pursue diversity for the sake of diversity. President Trump got shot and the, the secret service agent that had no business being on that stage, was a DEI hire, was hired for the sake of diversity, and we've got no issues.
Speaker 2:Do we know this for sure, or is this just an assumption?
Speaker 1:Well, obviously, the fact that she was there, she's completely unqualified To be able to be a protector Taking a little political break here.
Speaker 2:People yes.
Speaker 1:To be protecting a someone like a presidential candidate, you have to be able to remove that person, carry that person. If they were incapacitated, she was clearly incapable of doing that. If she did everything else, if she knew how to holster her gun without looking, she's still incapable of carrying the president President Trump especially because he's a pretty large guy. There's very few men that honestly would be able to do that. So we are not fans of diversity for the sake of diversity, but we understand that there's a tremendous amount that can be gained from it. We have friends from multiple cultural backgrounds and one of the really cool things is, you know, we love having family meals with these people because it exposes us. You know, it's great conversation for our kids to learn what was life like in India, what was life like in Mexico. They get to experience the food and they just learn so much and get outside of our you know, their shelter sheltered Gilbert Arizona communities. But what we found is that it's really important that the benefit of diversity comes from having similar values but diverse backgrounds.
Speaker 2:And go ahead. Oh, I was just going to say so. Our action step for you is actually to reach out to an entrepreneur from a different background for a coffee meetup, and you had a great experience of this just recently.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so I talked about I was just on this amazing trip with John Maxwell. It was about, I think, a hundred, maybe 150 people on the trip, uh, and just absolute rock stars. I posted about this, but I felt like a minnow in the ocean here, uh, because but you're my minnow.
Speaker 1:Well, yes, I am your minnow, but the people I was dealing with, I mean these are people who have had um, multiple businesses, like million and billion dollar businesses, inventors, like hundreds of patents, just absolute rock stars, and some of the most humble people. And you're finally, you're slowly hearing about like they've done this, they've done that, they've owned this, they've sold that. But one of the guys that I immediately connected with, this guy, brother Adele, fellow Marine, I mean just an awesome friend. Very quickly we bonded Over at Taintops.
Speaker 2:Is this the one you bonded over at Taintops?
Speaker 1:That is Chris, that's the other Marine. But, adele, you know he came to this country. He was born in Jordan. No, no, anyways, he was born in the middle east somewhere I think it was jordan in a single room house wow and had a large number of siblings, came to this country and absolutely loves america.
Speaker 1:I he is, uh, extremely wealthy uh and um has owned every exotic car that my, our son, has dreamed of. I was showing Carson pictures of all these different cars that that he's owned and sold most of what he has and has given it to charity and is just on this kind of a humanitarian mission. He's an amazing guy, uh, but hearing his perspective was just, it was mind-blowing and it was really cool for carson, our son, to have this conversation with someone to realize this is, people who come to this country as immigrants have a whole different level of appreciation for what is possible and I and it uh it's really cool for me to hear that, but even it's even I really enjoy our kids hearing those stories yeah, carson 17.
Speaker 2:So I mean it really sets him up for a little bit of a different worldview yep and um who is the author of that book emigrant edge that we read?
Speaker 1:brian buffini.
Speaker 2:Yes, that's an excellent book on leadership and just understanding the value of the work ethic that many immigrants come in with and just what that looks like and why immigrants are actually significantly more successful than native-born.
Speaker 1:Americans, absolutely.
Speaker 2:Okay, and so just a note that diverse communities inspire and often, or excuse me and offer perspectives that bust your paradigms, and you just kind of gave a great example of that.
Speaker 1:Yep, all right. So build a support system beyond your spouse. This is important, no.
Speaker 2:I'm just kidding. We actually totally believe in this and it's really important because we love doing life and business together. But it's really important to have outside mentorship, outside accountability and outside friendship.
Speaker 1:So either join or create the mastermind group, right? You talked about you're doing this. I think that I've talked about this in the past, that when we first moved here I joined. You joined several women's Bible studies. Those are a great place to at least start if you're in a new area. I tried a couple different men's groups from different churches, you know, found one that I liked and then you know it was the right thing for a season. But I made some great connections. I learned about some great books through that and you know, just try things for a season. I do recommend that as a general rule, you commit to probably three to six months at a minimum. We've found it's very difficult to truly make good relationships in less than six months.
Speaker 2:You need time for that. It takes about nine to 12 months really to build a relationship.
Speaker 1:But at times you might join something and the culture is so different that you're like, okay, once again, if your values don't align.
Speaker 2:Like you were a part of a woman's Bible study where it was kind of the demographic was barefoot and pregnant and that was definitely not you, and so the values of you know, of really esteeming the Proverbs 31 women didn't exist in that group and so you realize it's time to move on and find a different one Exactly Cause I'm a woman who is passionate about being a mom and a wife but also wants to do things that impact the kingdom outside of our family life, and you can have the both and it takes intentionality but it really can be developed, and that's who I surround myself with now in a couple of different masterminds.
Speaker 2:Well, one specific master, brooke thomas, and then the networking group that I'm creating, but this also talks about, you know, joining mastermind groups specifically for couples and, like, we're going to one in november, I think, with john and lisa bevere, where we go and it's developed for you know it's around. There are a lot of couples that are there. I don't know if it's designed specifically for couples, but, um, it's definitely john and and Lisa speaking into business and life and marriage and families, and it's really helpful for us because we just have a different level of conversation when we're going together and we're seeing and hearing the same material and it gives us a lot to talk about and process.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 1:So a robust community will help you navigate challenges and celebrate successes. I can share. I've talked about my Eagles group a lot and every that we've had. A 2024 and the end of 2023 was a very rough season where just a lot of us were traveling and we were finally back in the rhythm of getting together and I mean, I just get so much fuel from meeting with these guys. Um, you know, we really cool. Um, our older two boys have in within the last month. Both of them have been re-baptized. Um, they, you know, we really cool. Our older two boys have in within the last month. Both of them have been rebaptized. They, you know, we've had an incredible journey with them over the last year and it was really, you know, it was awesome.
Speaker 1:One of my friends from the Eagles group was like Kevin, we want to hear about this. Like they've been praying for me, for us as parents, and they've been praying for our kids, and so that celebration is is awesome to have and also to know that they're legitimately praying for you, not just saying, oh, praying for you, like actually praying for me and uh, create that group. Uh, I've told these guys that I'm grateful that I. I know that if if they saw me screwing up in marriage or parenting, that I've given them permission and we mutually have given each other permission and I could actually count on them to basically kick me in the nuts if they need to and knock some sense into me.
Speaker 2:Thank you, gentlemen. Really iron, sharpening iron, which is a biblical value, and so I think that's amazing. And then I have a similar thing with our Queen's table ladies that I'm in. I mean I sent them pictures, video of the baptism and a voice text because same thing they had walked us through that. We have a small group from our former church that you know we have met with that is full of couples. That same thing. They pray for us, they support us, and then we also have our AZ Freedom Crew. So we actually have a number of different places as couples that we have high-level, protected friendships where you know they're spirit-led and there's accountability and there's true caring. Not all of them are business-related, but they're definitely centered around our family values and that's really important for us to have.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:Okay, number five is to step out of your comfort zone. Who's excited to do that? So the action five is to step out of your comfort zone. Who's excited to do that? So the action step is to volunteer to speak at a local event about your entrepreneurial journey, and I think that's a powerful way to just put yourself in front of others, to get your story straight in your own head and be able to tell it well and to invite other people into partnership with you.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so, um, so how the reality is you can volunteer, but like, what are some practical where some uh places people can go, Cause you can't just say, hey, I'm going to, I'm volunteering to speak, right, you need the right venue to do that. So do you have any recommendations how people can do that?
Speaker 2:Um, you might want to go through a chamber of commerce or it really helps to talk to other people in business in your community because they are often connected to other networking groups and you can speak sometimes at a you know a place of faith or maybe even at your kids school, on whatever your expertise is, and that gives you opportunity to meet other business owners and figure out where the needs are in your community for your voice and the value that you bring yeah, so chamber of commerce, bni, I think that stands for business networking international, something like that.
Speaker 1:Christian Business Networking is another group. So networking groups are, and most of those types of groups they actually rotate through the members actually having to speak. Something else that you can do is there are Dale Carnegie is a course that I know some of my family members have done, and then Toastmasters is another organization where you it's, it's very structured, they really help you become a good professional public speaker and they, you know they require you to make presentations, some that are on the spot, some that you prepare for. But those are some options for people. Look, if you don't naturally have a way to actually be able to speak.
Speaker 2:Absolutely, and our tip is that growth happens when you're willing to be uncomfortable and persistent, and we have experienced this in our personal life and in our business life as well. I mean, I can remember the first time I was asked to speak, even on stage, at you know one of our conventions or something, and I definitely was excited and nervous. I spent, you know, a lot of time preparing for it. I think one of my early opportunities was at a smaller venue and we were actually late leaving house. We got lost on the way there. I kind of lost my mind walking in because I felt very stressed. I felt like I was totally dropping the ball.
Speaker 2:If we haven't shared this before, uh, responsibility is one of my top five strength finders, and so I hate to be late to things and I hate to be unprepared. So one of my nightmares that I have every once in a while is actually that I am not prepared in where I'm supposed to be, when I'm supposed to be, or I can't get packed up to leave for a trip and everyone's waiting on me. It's just a weird. It's like a weird part of my personality, but because of that, that's my greatest fear. Not spiders, not serial killers, it's not being on time for whatever I'm supposed to be, but anyway, you were driving us. We went the wrong way on the freeway or took the wrong exit or something.
Speaker 2:We had one of our leader you know current leaders with us now early in our career and I walked in and I was just huffing and puffing and I had a mentor tell me later.
Speaker 2:He said, you know, when you walk in like that, it it made it look like it was all about you, and the truth is nobody else cared. You weren't actually late, you had time, even if you weren't as early as you wanted to be, and it just reminded me that so often it's like I might have been going through all those things in my mind, but how I show up at the event before I speak even was so important for me to walk in and just be a calm presence, and I'm hoping that I've matured since then and so now getting on stage in front of people is really a lot more fun and a lot more peaceful. I spend a lot of time preparing and praying and just enjoying the process. But again, growth happens when you're willing to be uncomfortable and persistent, because even after some rough ones, I didn't give up. I just kept saying yes and working on those skill sets.
Speaker 1:And the great thing is, ever since that mentor shared that wisdom with you, I'm at liberty to say remember Becca, it's not about you.
Speaker 2:Yes, okay, remember freedom fighters. You are not meant to do this alone. By intentionally building your tribe, you're setting yourself up for success in both business and marriage. Boy totally agree with that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and don't wait for an invitation to someone else's table.
Speaker 1:Start building your own community today. Reach out, connect and watch how it transforms your entrepreneurial journey and your life. And my encouragement is reach up, do not settle, don't reach down. You know, if you think about where people are at as far as making it through life, from a skill set, from a developmental standpoint, reach up, think about people who are one or two rungs ahead of you and invite them, and what I've found is the vast majority are willing to say yes. And because we know that you become the, you know the average of the five people you spend the most time with, and so it's so important that, as you're building this community, you're building with people who are going to bring you up, that are going upstream, versus people that are going downstream.
Speaker 2:And you can reach your hand back down and help someone.
Speaker 2:But again, you want to make sure you're balancing that with your own personal growth, because so many times we just reach down, because it makes us feel good, because we're not intimidated by the people on, you know, who are not as far along in their journey, and so we feel like we're much more capable to lead those types of people and we are more willing to give our our time and attention to them. But we will not grow from that experience and we can end up pouring from an empty cup. So you have to have the mentorship both up, or you need to have the mentorship and the pouring in up to be able to pour down as well. Um, and then your network truly is your net worth in more ways than one. So go out there and create the supportive community that you need to thrive.
Speaker 1:And, as always, we believe in you, the uncommon freedom that you're fighting for. Keep building, keep connecting and keep moving forward.
Speaker 2:See you next time, Freedom Fighters.